Your argument is self-refuting. Women "cannot really separate sex from feelings of love" -- and yet they do]

It seems to be self-refuting, but that is exactly the problem.

Women can not easily separate feelings of sex and love, but these days they are exposed to porn. Today's unnatural culture treats girls and boys the same, and this leads to all sorts of confusion on the part of females these days. That's why young women these days are so confused and conflicted.

Boys can deal with porn... let them have it. Women can't deal with it.

 

Boys can deal with porn... let them have it. Women can't deal with it.

Well, many women can obviously "deal with it" well enough to enjoy watching it and keep coming back for more. They are perfectly capable of objectifying and demeaning other women. Why not? You certainly don't see degenerate women raising a stink about other women being prostituted or even sold into sex slavery. It's also easy to find women willing to do porn. Speaking of which, IMHO, it wouldn't make sense to restrict porn's audience to males and yet continue to use women to produce more and more porn. Why not just do away with the hypocritical double standards and do our best to eliminate it altogether? I think porn can damage men every bit as much as it can damage women. We need to see white women as our mothers and wives and comrades, not pieces of meat to objectify and degrade.

If we don't pick up the anti-porn gauntlet, then it'll stay mostly in the hands of Christian fundamentalists. Do we really want it to appear that they are the only politically powerful people who want to end the sexual exploitation of women? Do we really want to let them keep that credibility?

I know plenty of men who don't look at porn. Neither do they lie about it. That doesn't mean I never met any that didn't lie about it. lol But, I do believe there are plenty that don't.

With respect but you cannot possibly know that.

Well, then, I guess your father didn't know all there is to know about Men. There are Men who don't look at porn and don't lie about it, either. I am one of them.

This could be indicative of a low sex drive.
Perhaps pornography should be encouraged to aid the quest for more Aryan babies? Encourage more sexual thoughts?
I think a lot of this moralism[mainly American] has more to do with the puritan streak that still runs through the descendants of the pilgrim fathers and has little to do with the nature of our struggle.

This could be indicative of a low sex drive.
Perhaps pornography should be encouraged to aid the quest for more Aryan babies? Encourage more sexual thoughts?
I think a lot of this moralism[mainly American] has more to do with the puritan streak that still runs through the descendants of the pilgrim fathers and has little to do with the nature of our struggle.

Let me tell you something and all the others on this forum. You can say whatever you want about your opinion along with anyone else. You can state whatever you want in regards to those of us that don't agree with the images. Whatever, who cares. I've read a lot of talk on here about what EVERYONE thinks about it, and how it will appeal to young white males and shock them, and blah, blah,blah,blah,blah,blah,blah...........I don't think for one min...that ANY of us are oblivious about any of the opinions. But I'm going to tell you something and when I do, don't you forget it. (and I'm not attacking you I'm just stating a point because I'm angry)
In all the post I've read in reagards to all this one thing has barely been mentioned:

Myself (like many others like me) spend countless hours and energy talking to my niece's and their young friends the importance of not running off with niggers! And why they shouldn't! And they listen. When I think of ALL the young white girls that are out there, and ALL the energy and time people like myself and others go through to teach our young white girls the RIGHT PATH in life to not help extinguish their own race it's very time consuming. And unless you have teenage daughter's or niece's maybe it's hard to grasp that fact entirely. We go through all this time and energy and then out of the blue from nowhere a WN pop us the very images on subject that me and others like me spend countless time and energy telling them to stay away from.
I understand why Alex did this. I undertand that there are young white males that need to be "shocked" by what the jews are doing! I understand ALL of that. But the one thing that to me is the MOST important thing is our young white women as well! This isn't just about young white males and their wants and needs in life! This isn't just about the jews who we all know control the porn industry. This is about something far more important than that my friend. What are all these young white girls out there going to think if they just happen to come upon VNN? What about the ones that see that and then think it's ok to run off and screw niggers because after all they just it saw on a WN web site! And after all, it must be alright because after all they are just a bunch of "nazi hater's anyway". What kind of message is that sending our young white girls? Because there are more of them than are the young white males that need this for a good "shocker" concerning the GD kikes. These young white girls FAR outnumber these young white males. These young white girls are also the breeders of our RACE! It isn't about what you and I think about all this. It isn't about who's right and who's wrong. It isn't about who thinks who is whineing about it. It isn't about none of that. It isn't about what who thinks what about porn. It isn't about what who thinks who is a prude, a puritist or what have you.
It is however about the future generations of our RACE. And if the white women are all out screwing niggers THEN WHAT? How are we as a race going to to survive?

I'm not mad at Alex or you or anyone else on here. But I am mad and angry on the issue of my race being destroyed and extinguished into oblivion. I am angry and mad about the wrong messages that our white young women are being sent. It's all around them. It's in their face every day, everywhere they go 24 seven. Now what is going to be done about it? Just appealing to young white males because they need to be shocked concerning the jews and porn isn't going to fix it either. I'm not saying that what Alex did is WRONG! What I am saying is that it isn't going to stop our race from being destroyed and out bred!

Aryan 88 I do not disagree with what you have said.
I neither condone interracial porn on VNN or anywhere else for that matter.
I am merely talking in general terms about pornography not the incident regarding VNN.
For the record I expressed my disapproval and protest about Sean Doc Martin`s banning by White Coast Nationalist. I believe Martin is entitled to express his opinion about this and it was wrong for him to be silenced.
Once again Aryan 88 we are not necesserally in disagreement.

This could be indicative of a low sex drive.
Perhaps pornography should be encouraged to aid the quest for more Aryan babies? Encourage more sexual thoughts?

Porn encourages onanism. It effectively discourages babies. We are living in the most porn-laden era ever seen in the history of the White West, and also the one with the lowest birthrate since probably the late Roman Empire. Promoting porn further in the hope of improving the birth rate would be like ordering buying a double scotch in the hope of helping an alcoholic trying to become sober.

You want to increase the birth rate? Clean up the culture, insist on families, put parents back in control, chaparone all dating activity of adolescent Whites, forbid premarital sex, and outlaw birth control. Whites will get married to have sex, and the result will be babies.

I think a lot of this moralism[mainly American] has more to do with the puritan streak that still runs through the descendants of the pilgrim fathers and has little to do with the nature of our struggle.

In what way is "moralism" objectionable to you? New England puritans had a phenomenal birth rate. Porn addicts do not.

Art forms in any Aryan society is erotic and stimulates the psyche. Look at all those sensual philosophies in indo-Aryan lands. The thing of drawing the line is that modern day "Porn" is commercial and plastic - imo synthetically cold. It does nothing but conjur images of dolled up women and extremely bizarre ritualistic type sex-fantasy as being "ideal" while placing natural wholesome elegance of pleasure into the bad catagory of "old fashioned and boring".

E=Mike]Porn encourages onanism. It effectively discourages babies. We are living in the most porn-laden era ever seen in the history of the White West, and also the one with the lowest birthrate since probably the late Roman Empire. Promoting porn further in the hope of improving the birth rate would be like ordering buying a double scotch in the hope of helping an alcoholic trying to become sober.

Pornography in one format or another has always been with us and always will.Long may that be so!
There is no proven link between pornography and decreased birth rates.
You will have to look for the causes elsewhere.
It really is a non-issue.The only thing that I object to is interracial porn as that is linked to miscegenation and bestiality.

You want to increase the birth rate? Clean up the culture, insist on families, put parents back in control, chaparone all dating activity of adolescent Whites, forbid premarital sex, and outlaw birth control. Whites will get married to have sex, and the result will be babies.

`Clean up the culture`.How do you propose to do that?
`Insist on families`. How can you `insist` on anything nevermind families?
`Chaperone adolescent Whites and forbid pre-marital sex`. Now I know you are being ridiculous.It is like Cnut holding back the tide!
Surely more sex,pre-marital,marital or even extra-marital can only have a beneficial effect upon birth rates?
One does not need marriage in order to produce babies.We should be encouraging young girls to get pregnant regardless of whether they are married or not.

In what way is "moralism" objectionable to you? New England puritans had a phenomenal birth rate. Porn addicts do not.

`Moralism` is the preserve of the petty-minded man not the Aryan Uebermensch.We need less christian puritanism and more shagging if birth rates is what concerns you.

E=Mike]Porn encourages onanism. It effectively discourages babies. We are living in the most porn-laden era ever seen in the history of the White West, and also the one with the lowest birthrate since probably the late Roman Empire. Promoting porn further in the hope of improving the birth rate would be like ordering buying a double scotch in the hope of helping an alcoholic trying to become sober.

Pornography in one format or another has always been with us and always will.Long may that be so!
There is no proven link between pornography and decreased birth rates.
You will have to look for the causes elsewhere.
It really is a non-issue.The only thing that I object to is interracial porn as that is linked to miscegenation and bestiality.

You want to increase the birth rate? Clean up the culture, insist on families, put parents back in control, chaparone all dating activity of adolescent Whites, forbid premarital sex, and outlaw birth control. Whites will get married to have sex, and the result will be babies.

`Clean up the culture`.How do you propose to do that?
`Insist on families`. How can you `insist` on anything nevermind families?
`Chaperone adolescent Whites and forbid pre-marital sex`. Now I know you are being ridiculous.It is like Cnut holding back the tide!
Surely more sex,pre-marital,marital or even extra-marital can only have a beneficial effect upon birth rates?
One does not need marriage in order to produce babies.We should be encouraging young girls to get pregnant regardless of whether they are married or not.

In what way is "moralism" objectionable to you? New England puritans had a phenomenal birth rate. Porn addicts do not.

`Moralism` is the preserve of the petty-minded man not the Aryan Uebermensch.We need less christian puritanism and more shagging if birth rates is what concerns you.

Porn in NOT a victimless crime!

Women are reduced into a number of humiliating roles for the purpose of male fantasies.

This is exactly what the Jew has been doing in regards to our race's destruction. They have reduced the role of women as a foundation in our society and made them into a tool for men. They have taken visual properties and made them into core beliefs.

Would you rather have a bar of silver or gold-painted dog shit? Porn, hollywood, all the flash in our media--it's all gold painted dog shit!

Nationalists are not about how you look, but rather, what you do. Nationalism is about deep beliefs and core ideas that cannot be bent by flashy images.

The Jew's capitalism is about buying things to feel better. And we all know that is simply not possible. We cannot buy our way into feeling anything but deeper in debt and more anxious than we already are.

Women cannot be degraded in our nationalist society. They are too important in the foundation of family. They are crucial in all parts as they fill a role that is defining. Putting women in porn reduced their importance in the eyes of who is watching.

Also, this goes on to be a matter of worth. The Jews are breaking us down and telling us we are not as good as our history and blood tells us. We know we are good, the Jews tell us otherwise. Porn reduced women to little more than meat puppets for the pleasure of men. And by telling a woman that her worth is only that much, Jews chop down the self esteem of these women so they cannot stick up for themselves. And if they can't stick up for themselve, they can't stick up for their race.

Dammit! I'm pissed about the comments here regarding victimless crime because I've known people in the sex industry and each of them had issues and problems that drove them to the industry. And the root of those issues were two-fold. One, they were abused as children and made to feel less than human by a family member or close family friend. They were assulted, raped and in some cases, reduced to sperm-catcher. Can anyone imagine anything more degrading? And then, on tv, they are told their value is nothing because a woman is nothing without her sexuality. Bullshit!

This goes to the heart of what we are fighting. This war the Jews have waged on us is not just against the men, dammit! Women are attacked, too. Porn backs up those attacks by telling a woman that not only is she nothing without her sexuality, but if she doesn't feel sexy, she will have to do more to show she is sexy. :box:

As nationalists, we must show women their value is beyond how they look. We must show women their value is more about who they are and what they do, not the ideal of beauty foisted upon them by the jewish media. This is a major boat being missed by WN's and being taken up by Oprah, who then leads them down the jew path again.

If I had a million dollars, I'd spend it on recruiting white women by showing them just how badly they are under attack by the jew and how they are being lead down the wrong path by the jewish media. I would spend the money educating them on how their value as white women is more than just a breeding machine or housewife. :box:

People attacked the way Hitler addressed women. I believe that part of the reason for this was the lack of attack on women by the jews. Flashy images, degrading porn and unrealistic ideals of perfection were not rammed down women's throats in 1933 Germany. I believe that women were more nationalist than the men but lived the values rather than proclaimed them. I think the clever filthy jew realized that if they were going to change a culture, they had to change all of it. And women were just another target to them, just another means for control.

Hail Victory!

Big Ted in Illinois

Pornography in one format or another has always been with us and always will.Long may that be so!
There is no proven link between pornography and decreased birth rates.
You will have to look for the causes elsewhere.
It really is a non-issue.The only thing that I object to is interracial porn as that is linked to miscegenation and bestiality.

The causal relationship between cigarette smoking and cancer is also not proven. Porn is a primary instrument used in the libertine project to unhitch sex from teleology. It is part of a hyperindividualist belief-system in which sex is essentially for fun and fun alone. In other words, porn is a tool for onanism, not a tool for encouraging couples to have babies.

`Clean up the culture`.How do you propose to do that?
`Insist on families`. How can you `insist` on anything nevermind families?
`Chaperone adolescent Whites and forbid pre-marital sex`. Now I know you are being ridiculous.It is like Cnut holding back the tide!
Surely more sex,pre-marital,marital or even extra-marital can only have a beneficial effect upon birth rates?

I am not advocating. I am simply enumerating some of the common characteristics of societies that have a healthy birth rate. The formula I outlined would make our society a lot more White, were it currently possible to implement. Increasing porn will not.

One does not need marriage in order to produce babies.We should be encouraging young girls to get pregnant regardless of whether they are married or not.

Thank you, but I would prefer not to live in a nigger-like society teeming with bastards.

`Moralism` is the preserve of the petty-minded man not the Aryan Uebermensch.We need less christian puritanism and more shagging if birth rates is what concerns you.

Better understood, "moralism" is the boogeyman of "daring" second-rate intellects overfixated on pseudo-Nietzschean ideas, who have not paid close enough attention to the actual twentieth-century results of Jews' pouring pseudo-Nietzschean cultural acid all over the place (see: Freud; Frankfurt school). It ought to be obvious to any casual observer that no amount of shagging will improve the birth rate if the only intended goal of sex is fun.

Pornography in one format or another has always been with us and always will.Long may that be so!
There is no proven link between pornography and decreased birth rates.
You will have to look for the causes elsewhere.
It really is a non-issue.The only thing that I object to is interracial porn as that is linked to miscegenation and bestiality.

`Clean up the culture`.How do you propose to do that?
`Insist on families`. How can you `insist` on anything nevermind families?
`Chaperone adolescent Whites and forbid pre-marital sex`. Now I know you are being ridiculous.It is like Cnut holding back the tide!
Surely more sex,pre-marital,marital or even extra-marital can only have a beneficial effect upon birth rates?
One does not need marriage in order to produce babies.We should be encouraging young girls to get pregnant regardless of whether they are married or not.

`Moralism` is the preserve of the petty-minded man not the Aryan Uebermensch.We need less christian puritanism and more shagging if birth rates is what concerns you.

Yes you are right Pornography has long been with us. Pornography with white women screwing niggers HAS NOT long been with us. Has it?

=Mike]The causal relationship between cigarette smoking and cancer is also not proven. Porn is a primary instrument used in the libertine project to unhitch sex from teleology. It is part of a hyperindividualist belief-system in which sex is essentially for fun and fun alone. In other words, porn is a tool for onanism, not a tool for encouraging couples to have babies.

Eroticism has been with us for millenia,especially in the Indo-European language are.
Are you saying that for millenia there has been a plot to corrupt the Aryan race and divert them from having children by excessive masturbation?
Blimey that is out of it even by my standards!:eek:

I am not advocating. I am simply enumerating some of the common characteristics of societies that have a healthy birth rate. The formula I outlined would make our society a lot more White, were it currently possible to implement. Increasing porn will not.

It sounds far more like a case of American christian puritanism to me.
There is no evidence that your `theories` are even workable never mind a potential for success.

Thank you, but I would prefer not to live in a nigger-like society teeming with bastards.

Who cares if they are `bastards` or not. It was certainly encouraged during the Third Reich.

Better understood, "moralism" is the boogeyman of "daring" second-rate intellects overfixated on pseudo-Nietzschean ideas, who have not paid close enough attention to the actual twentieth-century results of Jews' pouring pseudo-Nietzschean cultural acid all over the place (see: Freud; Frankfurt school). It ought to be obvious to any casual observer that no amount of shagging will improve the birth rate if the only intended goal of sex is fun.

I am not an advocate of Freudianism. More of a Jung man myself.
And it is still petty moralism and unrelated to our racial struggle.
Encourage more shagging,married or not!

Eroticism has been with us for millenia,especially in the Indo-European language are.
Are you saying that for millenia there has been a plot to corrupt the Aryan race and divert them from having children by excessive masturbation?
Blimey that is out of it even by my standards!:eek:

I'm not indicting the "eroticism" that you claim has been with us for "millenia" (whatever you are referring to). I'm indicting the pornography that became available in the last forty or so years with the modern so-called "sexual revolution". Yes, I do argue that modern pornograhy does nothing but promote excessive masturbation among White males. I think that's obvious.

It sounds far more like a case of American christian puritanism to me.
There is no evidence that your `theories` are even workable never mind a potential for success.

Call it what you wish, but what I outlined is pretty much the basic formula of self-continuance for any rooted traditional society. The fact that it sounds radical is simply a measure of the decadence of modernity. Again, the original New England puritans are famous for having had very large families. But you will find many other pre-modern societies both in Europe and in places like Japan thriving by most or all of the points I made.

Who cares if they are `bastards` or not. It was certainly encouraged during the Third Reich.

Bastards suffer from increased rates of psychological and social problems. I have noticed that they suffer from an increased tendency to be rootless, selfish and antisocial in nature, especially if they lack full brothers and sisters. In spite of feminist and sexual libertine lies, White kids need the stability that only fathers can bring.

I am not an advocate of Freudianism. More of a Jung man myself.
And it is still petty moralism and unrelated to our racial struggle.
Encourage more shagging,married or not!

I doubt Jung would have approved of pornography or bastardy.